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Title: Chinese scooter's Vs Japanese and European made scooters
Post by: Mat1998 on September 18, 2017, 05:53:45 AM
Obviously we all know that Chinese scooter's aren't made to the same standard and have much looser tolerances than Japanese scoots, but are there any differences in the actual construction? I know some scooters like SYM feature fuel injection while most Chinese scooter's have carburettors but does this make a huge difference?
Title: Re: Chinese scooter's Vs Japanese and European made scooters
Post by: Stanthescooterman on September 18, 2017, 06:37:37 AM
... are there any differences in the actual construction?

Please elaborate on the specific details of what you are asking.

... some scooters like SYM feature fuel injection ...

Let's focus specifically on Asian / Eastern scooters:

Brand is irrelevant. All the major companies generally use carburetor-fed motors on most of their 125/150, whereas maxi-scooters are generally produced with electronic fuel injection (EFI) these days. Remember that although EFI improves fuel economy and reliability, it pushes up the production cost quite a bit, as does a feature such as electronic ABS.

I have seen carb-fed models with good fuel economy (+ 30 km/L) and EFI scooters getting poor (-20 km/L) consumption, but the general trend in the motor industry is towards EFI.

What we traditionally see here in SA & refer to as "Chinese" scooters are machines that are being made to a price. They are not pushing out inferior products, per se, but "more affordable" ones. So, degree of "quality and reliability" is all price-driven.
You can either have a "cheap" scooter or you can have a "good" scooter - and for some folks, cheap is good - it depends on your own requirements and budget.

Remember that top scooter brands like Honda, Yamaha, SYM & Kymco all have factories in China, but they are being made to a higher technical specification, so naturally the price goes up.

If you'd like a good laugh, you can find out more about how personally some of our members regard their choice of purchase by going through this thread:

http://www.forum.sascooters.co.za/index.php/topic,8484.msg91615.html#msg91615 (http://www.forum.sascooters.co.za/index.php/topic,8484.msg91615.html#msg91615)
Title: Re: Chinese scooter's Vs Japanese and European made scooters
Post by: Mat1998 on September 18, 2017, 03:41:01 PM
By the difference in construction, I mean what do the manufacturers actually do differently compared to honda and sym etc that cuts down on the manufacturing costs? And carburettors have the advantage of generally being cheaper to repair if something goes wrong but on the other hand scoots with fuel injection often are easier to start with the starter motor especially in winter.
Title: Re: Chinese scooter's Vs Japanese and European made scooters
Post by: Stanthescooterman on September 18, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
By the difference in construction, I mean what do the manufacturers actually do differently that cuts down on the manufacturing costs?

Absolutely everything that they possibly can